Why is the NTE Arc Disc banner controversial? Arc vs Character banner differences
This is the biggest gacha controversy in the NTE community. The character banner's "no off-rate" system is widely praised, but the Arc Disc (weapon) banner's 75% off-rate has drawn heavy criticism.
**Character Banner (Limited)**:
- Base S-rank rate: 0.99%
- Soft pity at 70 pulls: S-rank rate jumps to 19.59%
- Hard pity: guaranteed S-rank at 90 pulls
- **Key advantage: No 50/50** — pity guarantees the featured character
- Pity carries over between banners
- Average ~53.5 pulls for featured character
**Arc Disc Banner (Weapon)**:
- Base S-rate: 3% (4.19% with pity)
- Featured S-rank rate: 1.68%
- Uses Triple Key currency, 10-pull only
- **Core controversy**: At the 6th 10-pull (60 pulls), only 25% chance for featured, 75% for standard S-rank
- 8th 10-pull (80 pulls) guarantees featured
- Worst case: 140 pulls total for featured Arc Disc
- No soft pity
**Community Debate**: The character banner's "no off-rate" is a core selling point, making the Arc banner's 75% off-rate feel like payback. Many players feel the generosity of the character banner is offset by the weapon banner.
**Pulling Advice**:
- Prioritize character banners — characters impact gameplay more
- Pull Arc banners within your means, don't chase limited discs
- Take advantage of free weapon acquisition: world bosses, weekly bosses, and events offer Arc Discs